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SUMMARY: Laying out financial tables

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Francois Jordaan <[log in to unmask]>

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Francois Jordaan <[log in to unmask]>

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Thanks to all who replied. The consensus is for fixed-width tables, as this
is a case where you want to predict what the user sees as accurately as
possible.

My original question:

What would best serve the user, when presenting tabular financial data in
HTML:

1. Fixed-width, fixed-fontsize tables, so designed to present all
information to best possible effect, (probably less than 800px wide though)
even if users with lower resolutions need to scroll horizontally,

or

2. Variable-width tables with resizable text, always expanding or
contracting to use all available horizontal space?

I was at first convinced the latter would be be preferable, but both
too-narrow and too-wide tables can detract from the legibility of the data,
as can unsuitable font sizes. Considering that clear presentation of data
such as this is imperative, perhaps this is a case where forcing the user to
adapt his/her viewing conditions to properly view the table is preferable to
the layout attempting to cope with all possible viewing circumstances?

Curious to hear what others think,

francois jordaan, designer
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Hi Francois

I've had a bit of experience doing financial tables -
I'd recommend option 1 - that way you know what the
user's going to see (and avoid some weird effects.

Another tip, for readability, is use alternate
background colours for alternate rows.

Chris Anderson
Information Architect
Xceed

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It's outside what you're asking, but just thought I'd put in a plug for
making your data available in one or more formats which can be imported
into a spreadsheet.  It's often more readable, and certainly easier to
explore the data, or combine it with other sources.  Include at least one
non-proprietary format.  tab or comma separated values are the most
general if not the most flexible.

I've wound up writing html parsers in several cases where convenient
formats were not available.  In some cases the html has been hideously
irregular.  In general my interest has been in setting up processes to
accumulate and monitor changing data available on the web.

Andrew McNaughton

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Francois:
I work on a lot of large-scale, database driven, informational websites for
financial companies and I have found it much better to set clear, fixed
width, etc. because the resizing can cause tables to become useless and
illegible. The size choice should depend on the techno-graphics of your
users. My DB tables rarely fill the full screen, though in a few instances I
have successfully chosen to use branded, labeled pop-ups for full-screen
tables: the user can read the data (sort, etc.) without losing the context
of the site.
Larisa Flint
Information Architect
2Bridge Software San Francisco
_____________________________________________________________________

From:   Ran Sagiv [[log in to unmask]]
Sent:   Monday, January 15, 2001 7:23 PM
To:     Francois Jordaan
Subject:        RE: Laying out financial tables

You like also to be able to print the table

_____________________________________________________________________


I used to build online annual reports for large corporations and dealt with
this issue often.
Most of the time, a fixed-width, fixed-fontsize table structure was chosen
simple because many users requested the option of printing those pages out.
Additionally, my clients felt VERY strongly that all financial data should
look the EXACT same on everyone's screen.

jonathan

_____________________________________________________________________

What about option 3: fixed-width table without fixed font size? If the
height isn't fixed, then this would (assuming your width allows for fairly
large type) allow folks with visual impairments to increase their font size
without skewing the width of your table if need be.
Jen

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Jenifer Wells
Information Architect
4Lane Digital
www.4lane.com
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