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CHI-WEB  February 2004, Week 2

CHI-WEB February 2004, Week 2

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Summary: C&S -- Web-based email vs client email programs

From:

Hal Shubin <[log in to unmask]>

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Hal Shubin <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 9 Feb 2004 20:09:58 -0500

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==== My question ========
Has anyone done any testing of Web-based email (through Yahoo or your ISP,
for example) vs client-based programs (Eudora or Outlook, for example)?

I strongly prefer Eudora to the Web programs that I can use. When I
mentioned that to someone else, she said just the opposite. While the
portability benefit of Web email is great, I hate being stuck in a browser.
But maybe it's just me (oops, there I go blaming myself). Any data?

Lemme know and I'll summarize it.

==== Overview of responses ========
No one had any testing data to report. As one person said, it is "much of a
matter of personal preference." Here are some personal preferences...

==== Responses ========
From: "Gart, Mitchell" <[log in to unmask]>

I haven't done any testing but I can state my preferences. Client-based is
way better because the GUI can be responsive. For example in the web based
version of Outlook, to delete messages you have to check a checkbox next to
the messages you want to delete, and then click a separate button to do the
delete operation.  In the client based version you just click a delete
button or use the delete key.  Much easier to use.

For the web based version you have to click a button to see if there are
any new messages.  In the client based version messages just appear in the
GUI as they arrive.  Much nicer.

Of course I know this because I use the web based version when I'm away
from the office, proving that having a web based version is also valuable
to me.

- Mitch

============
From:  <[log in to unmask]>

Funny you should ask, since I recently switched from a client email to a
web-based email.

Since this summer, I've been using Mailblocks.  And the bad part, is the
client program I used (Calypso -- now Courier) doesn't support IMAP and
Mailblocks is IMAP based.  I could use Outlook Express, but I've always
hated it, and it doesn't support the multiple addresses that trackers does
-- for example, I am using a "tracker" email for this list.   Oh, and I've
never been able to figure out Eudora.  It doesn't work for me.

Since I've been using Mailblocks, I rarely get spam.  We're talking about
one or two a month.  Well, I get it, I don't have to deal with it.

The other reasons I like Mailblocks:

It's fast.

I don't have to deal with virii -- most of them get caught in the spam blocker

I don't have to deal with Outlook Express.

I don't have to think about what I am doing.

I can use it on multiple computers and my email is there without
downloading or uploading files.  No matter WHAT computer I use.

============
From: "Pradyot Rai" <[log in to unmask]>

Hi Hal,

The preference of one tool versus another is much of a matter of personal
preference, unless, we see what tasks do we accomplish with each of these.

The discussion you had with your friend, was mainly about the preference
between thick clints (stand alone or client server based UIs) Vs. thin
clients (web UIs). And we had this discussion before on this forum.

Both have their advantages and disadvantages. Web based email programes
(Yahoo, Hotmails) are good for the reason you already mentioned. But many
users will tell you that it takes more time to accomplish the task -- it is
less friendly, less ease to uese, or lacks features of thick client UIs.

Argument should not be about whether web UIs are better or not. It is about
- can you do the same otherwise with the standard thick client interfaces
(and without webUI)? No, because thick clients are not portable and so is
the reason Browsers come in play (well, as of now). People have dooms-day
scenarios for browsers, however, wait till something better comes up.

A good example is "MS Outlook" and it's web UI part. You may not have the
oulook installed in your machine, however you can still receive the mails
thru' the web UI from anywhere. Besides, there are certain other
limitaions/features with each of these UIs.

So next time you get a chance to argue over the lunch, tell your friend
that Eudora is good for the reason that you can setup multiple email
accounts into one, 'or' you can setup your 'calender' without wasting too
much time to download the page... etc. And if your friend says that she
thinks her "Yahoo" is better 'cos she can do multiple accounts too and she
can access it from anywhere, then, you please change the topic and rather
starts a fresh topic relating to "fashion", or "migratory birds"...

Just my 2 cents.

Pradyot Rai

============
From: "John Malhinha" <[log in to unmask]>

I actually prefer using an IMAP server & then using Mozilla Thunderbird.
This allows me to save all my email on the server w constant syncing up w
my client. That way, when I'm at work or mobile, the web interface has all
of my old email there.

The service I use archives anything older than 45 days that sits in your
inbox, but doesn't touch anything that's in other folders. I'm sure I'll
hit a limit at some point, but it hasn't happenned yet :)

//jm

============
From: "Amol Hatwar" <[log in to unmask]>

You should be using an email client called The Bat! You'll lose Eudora.

Regards,

ah

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