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From: "Kester, Rush W." <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 17:43:18 -0400
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Conn [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 5:35 AM
> To: Kester, Rush W.; [log in to unmask]
> Subject: RE: The Pocket PC - a platform where Ada *should* have a
> presence
> Rush,
> These sound like good ideas ... something worth discussing at
> SIGAda 2000.

There are several tutorials/presentations discussing the intersection
of Microsoft and Ada technologies.

> Perhaps one of those sessions Currie talked about.

Umm?  Not sure which one you're referring too, but AFAIK there are
no workshops related to this.  Perhaps you'd like to organize one
If so, contact, Alok CTR Srivastava [[log in to unmask]]

> Details on the CEF (that I have) are sketchy so far.  It was
> mentioned in one of the Tech Ed presentations I attended, and
> I haven't seen anything on it yet in the MSDN Universal
> subscription material.  I expect details to come out there
> first.
> From what I can tell, the premise that the Pocket PC is in
> small numbers is not necessarily true.  Local stores (in my
> area) are constantly selling out of them, and last I checked
> there was a 1-month waiting list.  At Tech Ed, everyone I ran
> into seemed to know about them, and the Pocket PC displays in
> the exhibit hall were very crowded.  I think the vendors
> already see the value of them since a second generation is
> already out (of course, this was planned before the launch
> of the first generation).  I just got approval at Lockheed to
> get some for our project work.

You have misunderstood me.  I expect the market for Pocket PC's
and their applications to be LARGE!  What I was referring to as
"small" was the population of Ada developers and who have
Pocket PCs.  AFAIK, You're a lone pioneer here!  :-)

Rush Kester

> Rick
> ====================================
> Richard Conn, Principal Investigator
> Reuse Tapestry
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kester, Rush W. [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 9:21 AM
> To: 'Richard Conn'; [log in to unmask]
> Subject: RE: The Pocket PC - a platform where Ada *should* have a
> presence
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Richard Conn [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 5:28 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: The Pocket PC - a platform where Ada *should* have
> a presence
> >
> <snipped summary about Pocket PC from Rick's first message>
> >
> > The "User's Report on the Pocket PC" is at --
> >
> >
> > This is definitely a platform on which Ada should have a presence.
> >
> > Enjoy the report(s),
> > Rick
> > ====================================
> > Richard Conn, Principal Investigator
> > Reuse Tapestry
> Rick,
> I looked at the stuff on the Pocket PC at the URL above.  It looks
> like a neat tool.  Pocket Personal Computers (PPC) are definitely
> an area with a future.  Pocket organizers with only limited
> functional capabilities are just that "limited."  On the otherhand
> the possibilities for something like the Pocket PC, which is
> programmable are almost unlimited.
> I have a request and a suggestion that I think will further your
> desire to have an Ada for the Pocket PC.  The request is to you to
> determine if the Common Executable Format they are moving to is
> anything like Java Byte Code for the Java Virtual Machine.  If the
> CEF is close to Java, you are closer to the solution.
> My suggestion stems from two premises.  First, the number of Ada
> developers is small.  Second, the number with Pocket PCs is even
> smaller.  Given these premises, the market demand for an Ada
> compiler for the PPC is too small to justify the expense.  If this
> is to succeed, it will do so because of volunteers or venture
> capitalists.  So far, you're the volunteer in the best position
> to "make something happen."
> My suggestion is for you to contact ACT about helping you, and
> perhaps other Adaphiles, to port GNAT to Windows CE 3.  You might
> even contact your Microsoft friends to see if you can convince
> them that a robust, internationally standardized language like
> Ada is the right choice for this Windows CE 3 environment.
> Rush Kester
> charter member Team Ada