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"Kester, Rush W." <[log in to unmask]>
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Kester, Rush W.
Tue, 4 Dec 2001 10:30:00 -0500
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IMO, It more important to communicate that there is Ada work and
where it is.  Those who post job announcements elsewhere are in many
cases simply ignorant of the specialized Ada job sites.  Had they
known, they may very well have posted at Ada IC or GWU's
(for ACM SIGAda) Ada job sites.

It's a matter of advertising.  Monster, HotJobs, etc. spend
much more time and money advertising their presence than does
the Ada community.  Please don't let criticizm or concern for
whether the original poster "would have" stop you.  I wouldn't
waste my time even checking.  The job poster wants their job
filled.  They don't care how the job seeker finds out.

My vote, Ann and Randy, is to keep up the good work.  I would like
to see others when they see Ada jobs posted on other forums or
by other means to post them on Team-Ada, the Ada IC, AND the GWU
In this way people will know what the true Ada job market
is like, not just the subset they see/hear about through typical

Rush Kester
Charter member Team-Ada

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Randy Brukardt [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 6:54 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Future with Ada
> Ann Brandon said:
> > I like keeping the jobs up for more than a few months just
> > to give people a sense of what the "climate" is: where
> > people are hiring, any patterns, etc. As far as actively
> > looking for Ada jobs to post, I don't know how Cricket
> > that is. Shouldn't people ask to be on our page? I
> > welcome any opinions on this.
> To expand on Ann's reply. I occasionally see job postings
> here and on CLA that aren't also forwarded to
> [log in to unmask] Should we spend time trying to
> get permission from the poster to add it to the
> AdaIC jobs board?
> And why wouldn't someone post them there anyway - it gets
> thousands of views every month - potentially reaching more
> people than Team-Ada, for instance.
> As far as the lack of postings, that seems to be a recent
> phenomena. We averaged more than a posting a week until
> September 1st, then the postings dried up completely. I
> think that is more likely because of a lack of hiring
> (of any sort), because of the economy, rather than any
> particular reflection on Ada.
> Admittedly, we had a lot more postings before we went to
> a more manual system in August. However, many of them were
> multiple copies of the same posting, and more were just
> spam ("Home typist" and "Become a model"?
> Please.) So the list is a lot shorter than it used to be,
> because I cleaned out all of the junk (and ignore
> inappropriate submissions).


>                         Randy Brukardt
>                         co-webmaster, AdaIC
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