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Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:25:38 -0000
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Does anyone have a summary of any frames / no frames threads?
Have there been any lately?

F. Scott Ophof,
Can you not use it because your browser doesn't support it, or for other
reasons?

I am currently on a no-framed project, and am enjoying it.  However whether
we use frames or not is dependent on our client.  The browser support we
have is for IE 3 & 4 and Netscape 3&4 only, all of which support frames.

Kathy,
How do you turn off Frames in I.E. 4?  Can you do it in I.E.3 as well?

Elizabeth Gee

Human Factors Engineer
Corillian Corporation
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-----Original Message-----
From:   Gill, Kathy [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
Sent:   Tuesday, February 02, 1999 12:15 AM
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Subject:        Re: Links (was Re: guidelines for tooltips

Also, given that Opera (Windows) nd MSIE4 (at least Mac version) each allow
the end user to "turn off" frames .... building sites that are accessible
becomes increasinly crucial.

Add another voice to the ALT tag chorus.

Finally, Nua reported today that studioarchetype did a study of what
fostered trust on ecommerce sites -- ease of use [ie easy to navigate] was
there:

"Once a sense of security has been established, a visitor's focus changes
to the five  signifiers of trust: brand, navigation, fulfillment,
presentation and technology. "

http://www.studioarchetype.com/cheskin/html/findings.html


> Kathy E. Gill
>
> From:         F. Scott Ophof[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
>
> And frames-only sites might as well not exist, as far as I'm concerned.
> Not to say that that is bad, but simply that if I can't browse such a
> site, then I need not remember its existance.
>
>

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