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"Team Ada: Ada Advocacy Issues (83 & 95)" <[log in to unmask]>
Wed, 5 Sep 2001 21:16:42 -0700
"Robert C. Leif, Ph.D." <[log in to unmask]>
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From: Bob Leif
To: Alan and Carmel Brain et al.
You wrote and the correspondence of others was directed to"
"A special case of generating XML from Ada"

If any of the authors of or users with experience of packages that generate
XML from Ada will be present at SIGAda 2001, I would greatly appreciate your
writing to me at [log in to unmask] This invitation is also directed to the
converse situation of automated translation of Ada, particularly data types,
to XML. I am also interested in other experience with XML.

To introduce a little controversy, I believe that the Ada-XML relationship
is a much better place to integrate Ada with the Web than the JAVA language
itself. However, Ada J code compilers are important for the Web and other

-----Original Message-----
From: Team Ada: Ada Advocacy Issues (83 & 95)
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Alan and Carmel Brain
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 7:33 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Elaboration of Java vs Ada Pro/Con

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pascal Obry" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Elaboration of Java vs Ada Pro/Con

> [log in to unmask] writes:
>  > The same example shows the extensive technical support for Java that is
>  > available to overcome these difficulties, and should make all readers
>  > this list ponder the fact that there's no Ada equivalent.
>  > (Typical example: How to parse XML into Ada,
> With the XMLAda library (SAX + DOM).

Right. Wouldn't it be nice to have a set of technical tips available, 1)
advertising the existence of same, 2) saying how/where to download it,
3) giving documentation and 4) some tips on how to use.

>  > How to generate HTML in Ada,
> This is just plain mistake and should never ever be done. This is the main
> problem with PHP, JSP, ASP...

A special case of generating XML from Ada - much the same as the above.
That is, if its HTML-4. For my sins, I've had to implement a system that
extracted data from an Oracle database, producing XML as the result
which was then fed into further downstream processes to give on-line HTML,
CD-Rom E-Publishing or paper products. It would have been nice if Ada
was an option (management was a clue-free zone, alas), but some help
would have been useful, as I'd never worked with XML before.

>  > How to implement a TCP/IP stack in Ada etc)
> Of course possible, but I don't see the point...

Because if I want to guard a billion-dollar business that is web-aware,
that does millions of dollars of business-to-business trade via secure web
I don't want to rely on any crappy first-to-market shoddy and insecure OS
is an open invitation to any half-competent hacker.  So why not go all the
and have a truly trustable system, one you can bet not just your last
dollar, but
your life on. Guess which language (though not perfect) is the best for