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"Team Ada: Ada Advocacy Issues (83 & 95)" <[log in to unmask]>
Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:49:16 -0500
Michael Feldman <[log in to unmask]>
Michael Feldman <[log in to unmask]>
<[log in to unmask]> from "S. Ron Oliver" at Feb 20, 2001 03:30:41 PM
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[said Ron]
> Most professional disciplines have very carefully written codes of
> ethics.  The role of the individual is to apply that code of ethics
> conscientiously, not to write his own.
> Interestingly enough, "we" (Computing Professionals) have at least two such
> codes of ethics - one produced by ACM, one by IEEE - how many contemporary
> software developers even know they exist, let alone have read them?

Our students are required to read the ACM Code of Ethics (which I don't
really like much - it's too squishy), the IEEE Code of Ethics - which
is brief and to the point - and, best of all, the IEEE-CS/ACM Software
Engineering Code of Ethics and Professional Practice.

Have a look at

We discuss these in class periodically in the curriculum, starting
with the intro courses.
> >Ron tends to paint his pictures with a "very" broad brush,
> I hope you now see a little more of the detail.
> >when the actual world does not live in his Ivory tower.
> By "actual world" I suppose you mean the overwhelming majority of "current
> working environments for software developers".  I haven't a clue what you
> mean by "Ivory tower".  However, if my interpretation of "actual world" is
> even close, I would say they do not "live by" anything remotely close to
> professionalism, by any reasonable understanding of the term
> "professional".  The evidence is clear.  Look at all that sucky software
> and the almost total absence of quality software.  :)
> sro
I'm going to jump to Ron's defense here and point out that before going
into teaching at Cal Poly, he spent a fair number of years in industry.
Sometimes Ron's rhetoric is a bit...well...overheated, but it comes from
experience on both sides of the street. I've known Ron for many years -
he may be many things (most of which are likable) but he definitely is
NOT an ivory-tower academic!

Mike Feldman