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From: Masters Michael W DLVA <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:55:42 -0500
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Thanks for the kind words.  I'm not familiar with the CNA study referenced
in this thread but don't think it is mine since the CNA study apparently
concluded that Ada and C/C++ would be a "wash."  Not the conclusion I came
to, to say the least.  Would be happy to discuss language productivity and
reliability further if anyone is interested.   Those are still important
topics, despite rumors of their irrelevancy to the contrary.   Contact info

Michael W. Masters
Naval Surface Warfare Center Dahlgren Division
Code B35
Dahlgren VA 22448
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From: Brad Balfour [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 10:25 AM
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Subject: Re: Fwd: Comments by "Center for Naval Analysis"


  I can't be sure, but I think that the "CNA" studies you are referring to
might be the following paper:

  Masters, Michael W. 1996. "Programming Languages and Life-Cycle Cost."
Naval Surface Weapons Center, Dahlgren VA. March 18.

  I used to have a copy of Mike Masters report, but can't find it in my
files. I found this site in, of all places, the bibliography of the NRC

  Mike Masters is a good guy. If his isn't the "CNA study" you are looking
for, he may be able to find you a direct reference.

  The only e-mail address I have for Mike is [log in to unmask]
But this is two years old and I don't know if it is still correct. I don't
have a phone number for him.


At 05:04 PM 1/12/99 , Wesley Groleau wrote:
>This is a second- or third-hand report of one or more studies by the
>Center for Naval Analysis (CNA).  I do not know how these studies were
>done nor how to get closer to the source.
>Most of the message was related to specific DoD contracts.
>I have omitted these sections and "censored" mention of one program in
>b. CNA conducted an analysis of Ada versus C++. CNA stated that it would
>a wash. There was no advantage for either programming lanugage. xxxxxxx
>stated that there could not be a pure Ada or C++ environment due to COE
>migration. COE software modules that are provided by DISA support Ada
>(Alerts module), JAVA, C, and C++. SPARWARS stated that there was a lack
>software tools to support Ada 95 programming and development. CNA disputed
>that claim.
>c. CNA conducted an analysis of UNIX versus WIN NT. CNA seem to favor UNIX
>based on the reliability of the memory management.