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Ada as a whole may or may not be a growing market (I won't debate that
here), but I think Dave Wood would agree with me when I say that the Windows
portion of the market is definitely a growth area.  Ada is certainly not the
largest market for Rational Rose, however, and that is why there is the
apparent ignorance about it among some "Rose people".

I do not believe that the Ada market is going "fast".  I continue to see
quite a bit of interest in Ada, especially now that Ada 95 is mature.  The
interest includes quite a bit of new work, not just from existing Ada
projects (or new projects based on migrating old Ada projects).

GeneO.

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From: Team Ada: Ada Advocacy Issues (83 & 95)
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Alex Polack
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Subject: Re: (ROSE) Rational's apparent disinterest in Ada 95 on Wintel


Some thoughts on the Ada issue:

Ada is not a growing market, especially when one compares it with Java, C++,
and VisualBasic markets.  Being a publicly traded company, Rational must
make some hard decisions on where and how to spend its engineering
resources.

No matter how good of a language Ada is/was, let's not forget, Ada and Ada
market were thrust onto the front page by the US DoD.  As soon as the
mandate to use that language was no longer enforced, the market began to
disappear very fast.  Just look at the Ada related trade shows and expos.

As a software practitioner, I am sad to see Ada go that fast.  As a Rational
stockholder, I am glad Rational management is paying attention to the market
forces.

Regards,
Alex Polack
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http://www.docexpress.com
"DocEXPRESS - Documentation Made Easy"


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From: pjohnson <[log in to unmask]>
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Date: Thursday, October 01, 1998 2:05 PM
Subject: (ROSE) Rational's apparent disinterest in Ada 95 on Wintel



To the Team,

I am working on a project the requires the use of Rational's Rose modeling
tool
and Apex compiler.  We are using Rose 98 on Win95/NT to generate the models.
Once the models are complete we have to move them to Rose Ada on a Sparc for
code generation, reverse engineering, and builds.  This is done because Rose
98
does not support Ada95.  While at Rational for an Apex course I spoke to the
Rose 98 sales/marketing support people about an Ada95 addin for Rose 98.  I
thought this was a reasonable request as Rational sells a Win95/NT Ada95
compiler.  The response was unexpected.  I was told that they saw no future
in
Ada and no one used Ada on PCs, just Java, Visual C++, and Visual Basic.
They
also stated that they knew they had lost the Ada market and saw no reason to
support Ada on their PC product.  I pointed out the Aonix has sold
75,000-85,000 licenses of ObjectAda and that translates into a fairly nice
market potential for modeling tools.

Does any one else think that an Ada95 addin for Rational Rose would be a
good idea.  I know Aonix has StP, but as a consumer I like the idea of
choices.

Also, does this attitude worry anyone else?

Philip Johnson
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