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Hal Hart <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 28 Aug 2000 17:50:47 -0700
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ALL:  I saw that Ginger is gone for a few days, so I think I can answer the
question about voting eligibility below.  Only ACM members can vote.  The $53
(stupid) & $25 membership options do not qualify.  You have to pay your
almost-$100 for basic ACM membership + SIGAda's $25 fee.  I am not sure whether
or not student members of the ACM who also are student members of SIGAda get to
vote, but I doubt this situation was being queried.

Note that as Past SIGAda Chair, I am the 2001 SIGAda Nominations Committee
Chair.  Before December, I need at least 2 candidates for each of (1) Chair, (2)
Vice Chair for Meetings & Conference, (3) Vice Chair for Liaison, (4) Secretary,
(5) Treasurer, and (6) International Representative.  The latter (6) must be a
non-North-American resident.  I encourage private messages to me (please use
[log in to unmask]) if you're interested or want to discussion responsibilities
and likely effort commitments.  Or, suggest to me someone who you believe should
be encouraged to run for office and I will follow up.  HOWEVER, the same rules
apply as for voting  --  you must be an ACM member to stand for SIGAda office.
Note that current SIGAda Chair, Ben Brosgol, will automatically become the Past
SIGAda Chair, a 7th voting member of the SIGAda Executive Committee.  (And I get
to "retire" after 20 straight years on the SIGAda EC!  :-)

      -Hal Hart, SIGAda Past Chair

Currie Colket wrote:

> Ginger:
> There have been several questions on the Team-Ada maillist concerning
> which membership categories get to vote for SIGAda Officers at our next
> election. As some of these membership categories are relatively new, it
> would be best if the answer came from ACM.
> SIGAda Membership Categories from the ACM Home Page (accessed by "Join
> SIGAda via the ACM e-store" on the SIGAda Home Page at
> are:
>         Member: $25.00             (Member of ACM)
>         Nonmember: $53.00          (non-member of ACM)
>         Student Member: $10.00
>         SIG - only Member: $25.00  (non-member of ACM)
> We all know that an ACM Professional Member with membership in SIGAda
> has the right to vote.
> Which of these other categories have the right to vote and are sent
> ballots for the SIGAda Election to be held in 2001:
>         Nonmember?
>         Student Member?
>         SIG - only Member?
> Also, is voting privilege affected by ACM membership types, such as ACM
> Associate Membership? Please see the attached email for additional
> background on this question.
> Please reply your answer to all. Thank you in advance for your help.
> v/r
> Currie Colket
> SIGAda Vice Chair for Meetings and Conferences
> Michael Feldman wrote:
> >
> > [Currie said]
> > >
> > > Dear David and Team Ada:
> > >
> > > This thread discussing SIGAda has been interesting and thought
> > > provoking.
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > This is a _great_ rundown on the structure and state of SIGAda.
> > I agree that this needs to be distilled and published on the website.
> >
> > I have just one question:
> > >
> > > ACM conducts the elections. Only ACM Professional Members have the right
> > > to vote (i.e., Associate members who join at a reduced fee, do not have
> > > this right).
> >
> > The above is not clear. Historically, "Associate Member" has meant
> > "a member of another technical society". For example, my ACM membership
> > allows me to be a member of the IEEE Computer Society (IEEE-CS) (at a
> > reduced, but still high, dues:-)). Personally, I am not a member of the
> > full _IEEE_, so I have no member privileges (e.g. no vote) at that level.
> > However, I _do_ have voting privileges for _IEEE-CS_ officers.
> >
> > AFAIK, IEEE does _not_ allow people who are not IEEE
> > members, or Associates under this reciprocity, to join their
> > societies like IEEE-CS. OTOH, ACM now allows people to _just_
> > join a SIG.
> >
> > OK, now to the present case. Hypothesize that I am NOT an ACM member,
> > and NOT an ACM Associate Member (by the above definition), but I _am_
> > a dues-paying member of _SIGAda_. (This is allowed under current ACM
> > rules!)
> >
> > Can I vote in the _SIGAda_ election? I hope so!
> >
> > Mike Feldman