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Gene Ouye <[log in to unmask]>
Thu, 1 Oct 1998 15:41:20 -0700
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Someone just told me that the "nonsense" I mentioned below could be
interpreted as Philip Johnson's message, not the b*** s*** that was
disseminated by the "Rose 98 sales/marketing support people".  I most
definitely meant the latter.

GeneO.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene Ouye [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 1998 3:34 PM
To: pjohnson
Cc: [log in to unmask]; Gene Ouye
Subject: RE: Rational's apparent disinterest in Ada 95 on Wintel


The Rose 98 people you spoke to must be idiots (Sorry, if any of you are on
this list, but that seems pretty unlikely given the total ignorance
displayed in their response).

Right now we are building a Rose 98 Ada 95 and Ada 83 code generator that
will be tightly integrated with Rational Apex Ada NT for both code
generation and reverse engineering.  But you can also use it independent of
Apex if you don't want to do reverse engineering.  The code generation and
reverse engineering portions have been working since early this summer (I
have been demoing them for months), and the work remaining is in the
integration with Apex NT.  The official beta will be available in about 2
weeks, but if you need it now, I can get something together for you that you
could use tomorrow.

You will be able to get Ada 95 as an add-in, or as an Ada-only Professional
Edition.

Please send me the name of the person with whom you spoke (and please don't
cc the list).  There is NO EXCUSE for disseminating that nonsense.

Gene Ouye <[log in to unmask]>

Apex Ada NT Product Manager                     phone:  408-863-5054
Rational Software Corporation           cell:   650-465-2541
18880 Homestead Road                            fax:    408-863-5075
Cupertino, CA 95014                             email:  [log in to unmask]


-----Original Message-----
From: Team Ada: Ada Advocacy Issues (83 & 95)
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of pjohnson
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 1998 3:04 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Rational's apparent disinterest in Ada 95 on Wintel


To the Team,

I am working on a project the requires the use of Rational's Rose modeling
tool
and Apex compiler.  We are using Rose 98 on Win95/NT to generate the models.
Once the models are complete we have to move them to Rose Ada on a Sparc for
code generation, reverse engineering, and builds.  This is done because Rose
98
does not support Ada95.  While at Rational for an Apex course I spoke to the
Rose 98 sales/marketing support people about an Ada95 addin for Rose 98.  I
thought this was a reasonable request as Rational sells a Win95/NT Ada95
compiler.  The response was unexpected.  I was told that they saw no future
in
Ada and no one used Ada on PCs, just Java, Visual C++, and Visual Basic.
They
also stated that they knew they had lost the Ada market and saw no reason to
support Ada on their PC product.  I pointed out the Aonix has sold
75,000-85,000 licenses of ObjectAda and that translates into a fairly nice
market potential for modeling tools.

Does any one else think that an Ada95 addin for Rational Rose would be a
good idea.  I know Aonix has StP, but as a consumer I like the idea of
choices.

Also, does this attitude worry anyone else?

Philip Johnson
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