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Jesus Craig, this is exactly the type of bullshit attitude that Rich. Conn.
is
fighting against.  Sure, stand back and sneer because Rich admitted that VB
code "fails from time to time".  You know what?  BFD!!!!!  There is
absolutely
no such thing as perfect software (and that includes Ada software). VB is a
perfectly acceptable language (I use that term loosely) for writing things
like internet chat rooms, simple database front-ends, etc.

Not everything is a life-and-death situation where 100% uptime and
ultra-high
reliability is required.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Team Ada: Ada Advocacy Issues (83 & 95)
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Craig Spannring
> Sent: July 31, 2000 10:38 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Taking a pulse of the Ada and Software Engineering
> communities
>
>
> Okay, let me get this straight.  In he last copule months you've
> written-
>
>
>
> On Fri, 7 Jul 2000 06:56:35 -0400 Richard Conn <[log in to unmask]> wrote-
>  >
>  > At work, I'm leading a charge to go with Microsoft for our
>  > Ground-based Data Systems for aircraft.  It will reduce our
>  > development cost, the customer (the Air Force, in this case) wants it
>  > to reduce their maintenance and training costs, it will help our
>  > retention (because software engineers see it as adding value to their
>  > resumes), and it fits the domain.
>
> Visual Basic has reduced maintenance costs?
>
>
>
>
>  > On Thu, 6 Jul 2000 00:51:15 -0400 Richard Conn <[log in to unmask]> wrote-
>  > I made an honest attempt to find a way to adapt this infrastructure
>  > while satisfying everyone, including the 5% that does not use
>  > Microsoft technology, and did not find a solution in a reasonable
>  > amount of time.
>
> So Microsoft products won't adapt to non-Microsoft products.  How was
> it that Microsoft complies with standards?
>
>
>
> On Sun, 2 Jul 2000 Richard Conn <[log in to unmask]> wrote-
>  >
>  > No problem ... I've seen this message myself from time to time.  The
>  > communities are very busy, and sometimes the server hiccups.  I found
>  > that if I just wait a minute and try again, it's back.
>
> So apparently software that fails "from time to time" is fine?
>
>
> On Wed, 5 Jul 2000 16:53:52 -0400 Richard Conn <[log in to unmask]> wrote-
>  >
>  > Some of us had 3 hours worth of Chat Room time non-stop without
>  > interruption.
>
> So 3 hours of uptime is good?
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 05:50:49 -0400 Richard Conn <[log in to unmask]> wrote-
>  >
>  > Eloquently stated, David,
>  >
>  > With an attitude like this in the Ada community, ignoring Microsoft
>  > with a dwindling customer base is like telling people to leave you
>  > alone and let you play in your sandbox.
>
> Has David Botton always been anti-Microsoft when it comes to his
> contributions to the Ada community?
>
>
>
> On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 06:46:04 -0400 Richard Conn <[log in to unmask]> wrote-
> > The pulse looks pretty weak,
>
> So Ada is dead and we should use something else, Visual Basic perhaps?
>
>
>
> On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:24:39 -0500 "Richard  L.
> Conn"<[log in to unmask]>
> wrote-
>  >
>  > Visual Basic is available in three editions, each geared to meet a
>  > specific set of development requirements. The features available to
>  > you depend on which product you have purchased.
>
> How does this differ from a Microsoft advertisement?  Does Microsoft
> pay you?  Did I accidently subscribe to team-microsoft?
>
>
>
>
> Okay, I think I know where you're coming from, now the only question I
> have left, why are you subscribed to team-ada and not team-microsoft?
>
>
>
> I don't know about everyone else, but this endless stream of Microsoft
> advertisements is getting old.  I subscribe to several trade rags.  I
> already see all of the advertisements and press releases.  I don't
> need to see them parroted by you on this list.
>
>
>
> --
> =======================================================================
>  Life is short.                  | Craig Spannring
>       Bike hard, ski fast.       | [log in to unmask]
>  --------------------------------+------------------------------------
>   When all you've got is Perl, everything feels like a smashed thumb
> =======================================================================
>

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