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I liked the Y2k Management joke!

I also agree that the end is NOT near. But you sure can't tell that from
the number of people here (Utah) who are stocking up 2-3 years worth of
food.

The fact remains that some devices shouldn't care about the date, but
DO. I used the example earlier of a perfectly safe device going down
because it's status logging system failed and stopped everything. This
shouldn't happen, but it does. It can be designed out.

It's not a problem if the VCR, microwave, or the satellite dish doesn't
work, no cable for a month and no popcorn. But if the power plants fail,
ATC goes down, the gas pumps don't, or our water pumps stop, well, then
it'll get interesting.

Now that we're thoroughly off topic..... ;-)

I think this all goes back to the definition of a critical system. My
VCR, TV, and computer don't qualify. But power plants, fuel production
and delivery, ATC, medical, emergency communications, and services vital
to our infrastructure should be considered critical systems.

It seems to me that with all this worry about Y2k, there should be an
emphasis on deciding exactly what is and isn't critical. Perhaps
"critical" for society is different than for the indiviual, but is it
any less important?

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>-----Original Message-----
>From:  W. Wesley Groleau x4923 [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent:  Tuesday, March 09, 1999 10:17 AM
>To:    [log in to unmask]
>Subject:       Re: Y2K will be worse than 1984
>
>I have no doubt that there will be a LOT of problems next January, but I
>also think that there is a lot of unfounded fear-mongering and
>profiteering going on.
>
>I recently discarded an electric razor because the power switch broke, and
>when I took it apart, I decided it was too hard to fix.  Having a little
>bit of hardware experience, I can safely say that the only semiconductors
>in the whole thing were in the rectifier on the power cord.  Yet a recent
>TV special should the same model along with a simple hair curling wand as
>examples of devices containing "embedded chips".
>
>They also talked about the possibility of pacemakers or microwave ovens
>failing.  Come on!  Neither device cares a hoot what day of the month it
>is, much less what day of the century!
>
>HOWEVER, just suppose that the processor or software in my pacemaker is
>date sensitive, AND the FDA didn't ensure adequate testing.  Why should I
>be afraid of it failing at the turn of the century?  That could only
>happen if the manufacturer took the trouble to set its date and time
>accurately when the battery was installed.  If not, it could (could have)
>failed due to a date or time rollover at ANY MOMENT!
>
>I've been warned that my VCR (and microwave oven) may not know the correct
>time.  If there's no power (or food), who cares?
>
>There may be a lot of folks with their "heads in the sand," but this kind
>of foolishness encourages many people to dismiss it as just another fad.

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