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Sender: "Team Ada: Ada Advocacy Issues (83 & 95)" <[log in to unmask]>
X-To: Peter Hermann <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:08:16 -0500
Reply-To: Ben Brosgol <[log in to unmask]>
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From: Ben Brosgol <[log in to unmask]>
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I tentatively agree with Peter's position (list open to subscribers only).

A question for the list administrator, if it is easy to produce such
statistics: over, say, the past few months, can you indicate the percentages
of posted articles from the following sources:
1) Subscribers to the list
2) Non-subscribers, where the message is relevant to the list charter
3) Spam (presumably from non-subscribers :-)

If it turns out that a high percentage is in category 2, then maybe
subscriber-only is not a good idea (and then I would vote for "moderated"),
but my guess is that most of the messages will be from categories 1 or 3.

A potential hassle with subscriber-only lists is that the algorithm for
figuring out if a sender is a subscriber is rather fussy; minor differences
such as inclusion of subdomain names can trigger rejections/bouncebacks.  It
would be nice if the list software could separately define "permitted
senders" and "recipients".  Then a subscriber could provide multiple
addresses as "send from" and presumably only one of these as "send to".

Another option is to change the name of the list (say "TEAM_ADA" versus
"TEAM-ADA") and leave it open to all senders, but I suspect that it is only
a matter of time before the spammers track us down and start another deluge.

Another option is to close the list and start a newsgroup, say
comp.lang.ada.advocacy, but I don't know that there's enough traffic to
warrant that.

Ben Brosgol
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Hermann" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 9:18 AM
Subject: FUTURE: moderation


> I dislike moderation by a human person because of the disadvantage
> of time delay as well as personal taste.
> Moreover, from time to time one of us has some urgent need to
> be helped for some off-topic topic :-)
> for which I am grateful at least for one event in the past.
>
> Therefore I recommend allowing subscribers only.
> Upon fraud, skip her from the list.
>
> This solution is simple but efficient.
>
> --
> --Peter Hermann(49)0711-685-3611 fax3758 [log in to unmask]
> --Pfaffenwaldring 27 Raum 114, D-70569 Stuttgart Uni Computeranwendungen
> --http://www.csv.ica.uni-stuttgart.de/homes/ph/
> --Team Ada: "C'mon people let the world begin" (Paul McCartney)

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