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From: Dave Wood <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:54:21 -0700
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Yup.  ObjectAda for Windows is not part of the Visual tool set
primarily because (bottom line) it would have required writing a
check from those who have the least to those who have the
most.  Appeals to logic, competitive advantage over Sun/Java,
etc., fell into the void.

Actually, there is (was) an Ada company out there with the resources
to buy into a bit of MS mindshare, but rightly or wrongly, they were
too busy hiding from Ada publicity for their MS connection to matter
to the people on this list.

MS is definitely a prohibitive monopoly, although by my experience
they are not a malevolent one as so many presume.  They're just
so friggin' big that it's hard to make a dent.

Whining in the darkness about the unfairness of it all is a big waste
of time.  My slogan for Ada is:  Just Use It.  You can't resolve
stupidity (or simple expedience) for the rest of the world, and there
aint no money, anywhere, for a top-down assault that's a decade
and a half too late.

Just Use It.

-- Dave Wood


----- Original Message -----
From: David Botton <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: The Pocket PC - a platform where Ada *should* have a presence


> --- Michael Feldman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Rick, have you tried working behind the scenes to
> > make connections
> > between the relevant Microsoft folks and the Ada
> > vendor companies?
> > The decision-makers on both sides are - we can be
> > pretty sure - not
> > likely to be readers of Team-Ada!
> >
> > Mike Feldman
>
> Sounds like a good Idea, but I suspect he will have
> experiences like when I contacted MS about Visual
> Studio .Net about integrating Ada with VS they asked
> me to deposit $25,000 at the door. (Although they
> asked me for the money after the non-disclosure so I
> am not sure if it was legal to tell you all.... oh
> well)
>
> Rick,
>
> Many of us have been working to let Ada ride the MS
> marketing machine, perhaps you should look before you
> leap with more propaganda and see what would you could
> to to actually help.
>
> I highly recommend you make it to my tutorials and
> talk at SigAda 2000, there has been much work in the
> realm of Ada support of Microsoft products that you
> clearly are unaware of. Perhaps more time spent
> evangelizing __TO MICROSOFT__ on the advantages of
> using Ada with their technologies (which it CAN now
> fully and easily exploit using GNAT and its related
> technologies!) instead of trying to convince us to
> embrace broken technologies like VB (you really should
> get yourself a copy of Delphi, you will be absolutely
> ashamed at yourself for having ever mentioned VB).
>
> David Botton
>
>
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