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"W. Wesley Groleau x4923" <[log in to unmask]>
Tue, 16 May 2000 09:34:33 -0500
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> The reality is that Ada does not meet the needs of these
> programmers, largely because
>                     1) There are no Ada compilers,

When true, I will agree Ada does not meet their needs.  But this article
did not say there was no Ada compiler. Tt simply dismissed without name
anything but C, assembler, and Java.

>                     2) They see anything other than assembler
>                        or C as too far from the hardware, and
>                        therefore, too inefficient.

Better described as Ada does not meet their misinformed  _wants_

> For many of these embedded systems programmers, even C is too high
> level ...... I see Ada as ill-suited to applications such as those
> that typify the kind of project targeted to the I-8051.  Assembler
> and Forth are still the better choices for such applications.  Notice,
> I did not include C in that set of choices.

Forth is a good choice when you need assembler-like efficiency AND the
productivity of not having to do bit-twiddling.  And Forth, although a
bit cryptic, does not encourage disastrous errors as much as C does.
(Disclaimer: The Forth I know and the Forth of today are two different
languages.  I last used Forth twenty years ago.)

But I maintain my criticism of that article:  Asked to choose a language,
the author rejected without thought everything but C and assembler, then
set out, not to decide between them, but to support the decision he had
already made.  There was apparently a JDK available, since he gave Java
a sentence or two.  If there's Java, it's hard to believe there isn't
C++, Ada, and at least one niche language.

Wes Groleau