TEAM-ADA Archives

Team Ada: Ada Programming Language Advocacy

TEAM-ADA@LISTSERV.ACM.ORG

Options: Use Forum View

Use Proportional Font
Show Text Part by Default
Condense Mail Headers

Message: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Topic: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Author: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]

Print Reply
Sender:
"Team Ada: Ada Advocacy Issues (83 & 95)" <[log in to unmask]>
X-To:
Date:
Thu, 5 Oct 2000 23:08:22 -0400
Reply-To:
Michael Feldman <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:
From:
Michael Feldman <[log in to unmask]>
Content-Transfer-Encoding:
7bit
In-Reply-To:
<[log in to unmask]> from "Tom Moran" at Oct 05, 2000 12:58:42 PM
Content-Type:
text/plain; charset=us-ascii
MIME-Version:
1.0
Parts/Attachments:
text/plain (26 lines)
>
> >It seems crazy to ignore the philosophy and roots of a language when
> >choosing one for teaching, but a concern about popularity in the industry
> >seems to have overwhelmed common sense at some schools.
>   OTOH it must seem strange for CS1 to ignore a student's high AP test
> score, and the AP test, and thus high school CS, is now C++.   :(
>
Team-Ada goes around this loop every so often. Some comments:

(1) Many schools (not just "Ada schools", either) do not mechanically
    accept AP test scores as equivalent to CS1/CS2.

(2) Currently there is a plan underway to change the AP test to ... Java.

The AP test is a quasi-commercial product of the College Board; they
contract with Educational Testing Service to administer and score the
tests. (I worked for ETS for 4 years - I've seen it from inside...)
Essentially, they try to follow the "market" and guess which language
will dominate 4-5 years up the road.

Yes, yes, they discuss developing a language-neutral exam, over and
over. This view has not yet prevailed, and (IMHO) is unlikely to
prevail. Don't waste your breath.:-)

Mike Feldman

ATOM RSS1 RSS2