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Richard Conn <[log in to unmask]>
Tue, 1 Aug 2000 04:25:00 -0400
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Hi, Chris,

I'm sorry you don't like what I have to say, but I believe in saying
what I observe and believe, not just what people want to hear.

Richard Conn, Principal Investigator
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-----Original Message-----
From: Team Ada: Ada Advocacy Issues (83 & 95)
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Craig Spannring
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 12:38 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Taking a pulse of the Ada and Software Engineering

Look, I'm having a hard enough time convincing my employer and his
customers that Ada is a going concern.  When Richard Conn, a supposed
Ada supporter, starts posting stuff like,

   The pulse looks pretty weak,

it makes me look pretty bad.  When he starts advocating VB, it makes
selling Ada just about impossible.

If he want's to advocate Visual Basic, that's fine, but I just wish he
wasn't known as a member of the Ada community and I wish he'd post to

I can successfully defend my choice of using Ada against people that
only know C++ or VB.  But to my boss, somebody from Ada community
saying that Ada is dead will kill my chance of continuing to use Ada
in the future.  If I have to go back to writing C++ that will truly
will piss me off.

Andrew Logue writes:
 > Jesus Craig, this is exactly the type of bullshit attitude that Rich.
 > is
 > fighting against.  Sure, stand back and sneer because Rich admitted that
 > code "fails from time to time".  You know what?  BFD!!!!!  There is
 > absolutely
 > no such thing as perfect software (and that includes Ada software). VB is
 > perfectly acceptable language (I use that term loosely) for writing
 > like internet chat rooms, simple database front-ends, etc.
 > Not everything is a life-and-death situation where 100% uptime and
 > ultra-high
 > reliability is required.
 Life is short.                  | Craig Spannring
      Bike hard, ski fast.       | [log in to unmask]
 Any sufficiently horrible technology is indistinguishable from Perl.