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Colin Paul Gloster <[log in to unmask]>
Wed, 5 Dec 2001 11:56:37 +0000
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Jerry van Dijk said:
"[..] Over here in the Netherlands there are simply none. And hardly anything in
the rest of the EU. Or at least, I cannot find them.

Ok, so there are some low paying jobs, which usually amount
to either tweaking a UML design to fit Ada or converting existing
Ada83 into C++.

Maybe I'm in a pessimistic mood, but I have given up the
idea of ever using Ada again in a job setting.


There is a move in ESTEC to continue with Ada though.
Renumeration is more based on amount of time with ESA than
time with Ada. If you would prefer a different salary scale,
you could try to become an employee of a company (quite
possibly non-Dutch) but based in an office at ESTEC.

It may be worth contacting Modis ( )
, e.g. see "A Software Standardisation Engineer (Noordwijk,
The Netherlands)" on :

"A Software Standardisation Engineer (Noordwijk, The
     A contract job, posted 24 September 2001
     Start date ASAP.Duration 1 yr
     Rate Neg.

Space research organisation requires software
standards engineer to work on replacing old standards with
new.Software Engineering standard ECSS-E40 needs to
be tailored to suit different projects.Skills
required: Modern software engineering practices, Software
standards, practical SW exp, real-time sys, design
methods, cross-compilers (GNU), programming in C
and Ada. Call now!!

Please contact Emma Pattinson quoting reference
     email [log in to unmask]
Telephone +31 (0) 40 294 8680. Fax +31 (0) 40 294 8681."

Your guidance in crafting new standards may be a good way to
go to foster the adoption of sensible tools in the Netherlands.

Good luck.