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Sender: "Team Ada: Ada Advocacy Issues (83 & 95)" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:46:22 -0500
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Ian et al,
>
> >>That is plain wrong. Please have a look at the lastest stats !
>
> >Where do I find these? I don't know of anyone outside the defence
> >industry in the UK using Ada (of course, there probably are some
> >peopleI haven't heard of but for sure not many)
>
> It's mainly used in defence and aerospace in the UK, but recently there has been
> some demand for it in the financial markets in the city. One company in
> particular has been looking for Ada staff (both contract and permanent) to work
> on smart-card applications. Also I believe Reuters use it heavily and, as far as
> I am aware, Lockheed-Martin are using it in a non-defence/aerospace related
> application (but this might be bogus :-)

This depends on whether you count commercial air traffic management
as aerospace. Lockheed-Martin has a big piece of the FAA system here
in the US, mostly in Ada. It is probably the biggest project in
the Washington area in which actual Ada development is done (as
opposed to contracting offices for work done elsewhere).

Several of my students are working there, on co-ops or post-graduation.
I know the people there and this is not bogus.
>
> Jobserve is one of the better places to see where the demand for Ada is.
> Although you don't get company names and so on, I guess if you were researching
> its use the agents may supply that information.

SIGAda and ARA both operate Ada job registries - the SIGADa one is
linked from

http://www.acm.org/sigada/

and the ARA one from

http://www.adaic.org
>
> >>I would be very surprised to not found texts using Ada !
>
> >I haven't seen any apart from specialised Ada textbooks (but of
> >course that doesn't mean they don't exist)
>
> You did write 'new' Ada texts; but if you want to include old ones there are
> e.g. the algorithm ones by Michael Feldman and John Beidler.
>
> John
>

and don't forget the Ada project summary at

http://www.seas.gwu.edu/~mfeldman/ada-project-summary.html

If any of the listings there are outdated, I'll be glad to correct
them, but I don't think any are bogus. My sources have generally
been people close enough to the projects to know.

(As I've said in this forum before, it's very hard to get good
information on real projects, especially in the commercial sectors,
and many of my informants were quite adamant that I was not to
disclose their names!)

Yours truly,

Michael Feldman
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