I don't know if this is the article Marc was talking about: Ada Letters Volume XVIII Number 5 September/October 1998 "A Comparison of Ada and Java as a Foundation Teaching Language" by Ben Brosgol. Frank > -----Original Message----- > From: Criley, Marc A [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 7:54 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Help -- ammunition wanted! > > (I hate it when people cite references they can't explicitly > identify, but I'll violate my own rule in this case...) > > A recent issue of Ada Letters had an "Ada vs Java for CS > Education" article published in it. I don't have the issue > here at work, so I can't tell you the date, but it was within > the last 2-3 years. > > Marc A. Criley > Lockheed Martin M&DS > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [log in to unmask] [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 7:02 AM > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Help -- ammunition wanted! > > > > We have recently come under pressure to change our initial teaching > > language for CS1 from Ada 95 to Java. Apparently this is the sexy > > thing to do inspite of the poor/obscure C-like syntax, lack of a > > language standard, poor compiler error messages,..... > > > > The plan appears to be to use an OO approach in Java from the start > > although the Java textbooks which claim to use this approach seem to > > me to place far too high a demand on the students. > > > > I would be grateful for pointers to any arguments and information that > > might be useful in resisting such a change. Any Java horror stories > > would be particularly welcome. > > > > Also if anyone has taught CS1 using Ada with an OO aproach from the > > start, I would be interested in hearing of their experiences. > > > > Dr. Alan Barnes > > Computer Science > > Aston University > > Aston Triangle > > Birmingham B4 7ET > > U. K. > > > > Telephone: +44 121 359 3611 Ext. 4663 > > E-Mail: [log in to unmask] (JANET) > > Fax: +44 121 333 6215