Hi all, Here's what I wrote back to ada-first. Mike Forwarded message: > From [log in to unmask] Sat Mar 25 13:24:27 2000 > From: Michael Feldman <[log in to unmask]> > Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: A defense move in the language wars > To: [log in to unmask] > Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 13:24:26 -0500 (EST) > Cc: [log in to unmask] (Michael Feldman) > In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> from "Murray Kirch" at Mar 25, 2000 08:13:38 AM > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Murray et al, > > > [snip] > > > > This has, at least for a short time, brought about a lull in our local > > language wars. However, our side could use some reinforcements. If any > > Ada enthusiasts out there would like to move to the sunny seashore of > > southern New Jersey contact me. We are hiring now. > > > > --Murray Kirch > > [log in to unmask] > > > This is a very useful set of correspondence. I'd like to add a few > bits to the discussion. > > (1) At GW we have started to do a systematic survey of our seniors, > who have the perspective of the whole curriculum to look back on. > The survey has about 15 questions, most to be answered along the > well-known "strongly agree" to "strongly disagree" scale. > The questions range from general ("This program prepared me well > for industry or grad school") to the more specific. > > One of the questions in this survey is "Of the programming languages > I have learned, Ada is a good choice of first language." > We developed the question very carefully to be as neutral as we > could. Since the students learn Ada, C, C++, and Java at various > points in the curriculum, the point was to assess their view of > Ada as the _first_ (not the only!) language. > > We're still tabulating the results, but it looks like the majority > will be more toward the positive than toward the negative. Last year > there was no formal survey, just an in-class discussion, and the > results favored Ada even more strongly. Even 3 years later, the > students remembered the help they got from the language and from > GNAT in their first programming experience. With the perspective > they got from learning multiple languages, they appreciate Ada. > > (2) In my intro course, I've started requiring, in one of the lab > assignments, each student to cruise the Ada project web site at > > http://www.seas.gwu.edu/~mfeldman/ada-project-summary.html > > and write a 25-word summary for each of 4 nonmilitary and 1 military > projects they find there. Any student (or faculty) who thinks Ada is > just for DoD obviously has not looked at that list. > > I've spent a LOT of time assembling the info in that list, relying > on a lot of sources in the community (including many confidential > sources who pointed me to websites); I hope it will get wide use, > as I intended it to serve as just the ammo we all need. > > (3) In April we will have a very cool demo of the Air Traffic Management > (ATM) system, given by a team from Lockheed-Martin which is doing a lot > of the FAA and international ATM systems these days. (This is the > former IBM devision that was sold to Loral and thence to L-M.) > This will be a guest lecture in my intro course, which meets in > a room large enough that the ACM and IEEE student chapters are > co-sponsoring the event. > > The publicity will not mention Ada, but the talk certainly will! > This group at Lockheed-Martin has hired several of our students > already, either after graduation or as co-ops. > > Not all "Ada schools" are in locations where Ada work is being > done, but many are. I think the best ammo is to get people from > those companies to come in and talk to the students. > > I used to be less "evangelical" within GW, mostly because I did > not want to be seen as grinding an ax. But I think the evangelism > works. > > (4) In preparation for the SIGAda booth at the recent SIGCSE conference, > I made up a prototype set of posters showing very crisply that Ada > is used in very interesting places. You are welcome to use these > if you wish, but keep in mind that some of the photos are under > copyright and we haven't finished getting permission. So don't > spread a lot of copies around and don't re-post them on the web. > The URL below is not yet linked to anything; I want to keep it > quiet until we have all the go-aheads, so please do NOT link it > from any other pages yet. Treat these as a draft. > I have copies hanging on the wall outside my office. > > http://www.seas.gwu.edu/~mfeldman/posters > > Suggestions welcome! > > Mike Feldman > >