>> The Ada compiler vendors have done their primary jobs in my view, >> namely producing quality compilers, and at least some of them >> have figured out how to create a sales force that knows how to sell >> them and make money in the process. >They have an interest in selling to those who they know want to buy. I would agree with this statement. I don't believe I have ever seen any marketing for an Ada compiler other than that which I have explicitly tried to find through the Internet. Admittedly the validated compilers list was very useful to me when I was looking for compilers for a specific target (mainly Mil-Std-1750A - whatever happened to TLD :-), but first I had to find out that such information could be acquired from somewhere, and then I had to find out where to get it. In contrast, for the C language, I have seen advertisements C compilers in the classified sections of magazines, not only trade and professional magazines, but ordinary, off-the-shelf PC magazines. As far as Team-Ada goes, while advocating Ada, it is certainly not our place to consider placing ads for compilers in the press, that is the job of the compiler vendors. I know of many people who have heard of Ada but: 1) Have never seen it 2) Wouldn't have the faintest idea which companies produce compilers 3) Don't know that GNAT can be got free of charge. John