[said Phil]
>
> I'd love to get a copy of that flyer.  Can you help?
>
> I contacted Microsoft a couple of years ago about certifying their compilers
> and was pretty much snubbed.  The people I talked to indicated that they
> were interested in providing what their customers wanted RATHER THAN
> conformance to standards.  (Opinion: Microsoft wants to define STANDARD as
> OUR WAY. End Opinion)
>
> Phil
>
Sorry, I can't resist...

Q: How many Microsoft engineers does it take to change a lightbulb?

A: No need to change it; Microsoft just declared that the new
   standard is darkness.

:-)

Mike Feldman