Hi, Everyone, To kind of see where I have been going with this discussion on standards and Microsoft technologies, consider this: 1. We all know Ada is very sick in terms of people adopting it. It seems to have found its niche in the embedded world (like our airplanes) and not much else. 2. Microsoft is entering the embedded world big-time with its embedded visual tools. Devices like Auto PCs (for automobiles), Pocket PCs (including ruggedized versions with bar scanners), and the like are emerging, and these are being programmed in Visual Basic and Visual C++. These are places where Ada could be making inroads. Is anyone doing something about this situation? Are there any Ada compilers for the Windows CE platform? Are there any plans for such compilers? I'm personnally finding Microsoft technologies to meet more and more of my needs. This is translating into less and less of a need to continue with Ada. The material I've offered this group (the Tech Ed 2000 trip report and Windows 2000 Launch report) shows just some of the directions in which Microsoft is moving, and some of these directions are areas where Ada used to be a prime candidate. Rick ==================================== Richard Conn, Principal Investigator Reuse Tapestry