Just to make Mike's hypothetical situation real --
I am in exactly that position: I am a dues-paying SIGAda member, but am not
an ACM member.
I was not informed (at least, I don't think I was) of any non-voting status
when I inquired about joining SIGAda only.

Can we get a definitive answer?  Curry?



Philip W. Brashear
Software Quality Assurance
EDS Corporation
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[Currie said]
> Dear David and Team Ada:
> This thread discussing SIGAda has been interesting and thought
> provoking.


This is a _great_ rundown on the structure and state of SIGAda.
I agree that this needs to be distilled and published on the website.

I have just one question:
> ACM conducts the elections. Only ACM Professional Members have the right
> to vote (i.e., Associate members who join at a reduced fee, do not have
> this right).

The above is not clear. Historically, "Associate Member" has meant
"a member of another technical society". For example, my ACM membership
allows me to be a member of the IEEE Computer Society (IEEE-CS) (at a
reduced, but still high, dues:-)). Personally, I am not a member of the
full _IEEE_, so I have no member privileges (e.g. no vote) at that level.
However, I _do_ have voting privileges for _IEEE-CS_ officers.

AFAIK, IEEE does _not_ allow people who are not IEEE
members, or Associates under this reciprocity, to join their
societies like IEEE-CS. OTOH, ACM now allows people to _just_
join a SIG.

OK, now to the present case. Hypothesize that I am NOT an ACM member,
and NOT an ACM Associate Member (by the above definition), but I _am_
a dues-paying member of _SIGAda_. (This is allowed under current ACM

Can I vote in the _SIGAda_ election? I hope so!

Mike Feldman