Hi, Chris, I'm sorry you don't like what I have to say, but I believe in saying what I observe and believe, not just what people want to hear. Rick ==================================== Richard Conn, Principal Investigator Reuse Tapestry -----Original Message----- From: Team Ada: Ada Advocacy Issues (83 & 95) [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Craig Spannring Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 12:38 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Taking a pulse of the Ada and Software Engineering communities Look, I'm having a hard enough time convincing my employer and his customers that Ada is a going concern. When Richard Conn, a supposed Ada supporter, starts posting stuff like, The pulse looks pretty weak, it makes me look pretty bad. When he starts advocating VB, it makes selling Ada just about impossible. If he want's to advocate Visual Basic, that's fine, but I just wish he wasn't known as a member of the Ada community and I wish he'd post to TEAM-MICROSOFT, not TEAM-ADA. I can successfully defend my choice of using Ada against people that only know C++ or VB. But to my boss, somebody from Ada community saying that Ada is dead will kill my chance of continuing to use Ada in the future. If I have to go back to writing C++ that will truly will piss me off. Andrew Logue writes: > Jesus Craig, this is exactly the type of bullshit attitude that Rich. Conn. > is > fighting against. Sure, stand back and sneer because Rich admitted that VB > code "fails from time to time". You know what? BFD!!!!! There is > absolutely > no such thing as perfect software (and that includes Ada software). VB is a > perfectly acceptable language (I use that term loosely) for writing things > like internet chat rooms, simple database front-ends, etc. > > Not everything is a life-and-death situation where 100% uptime and > ultra-high > reliability is required. > > -- ======================================================================= Life is short. | Craig Spannring Bike hard, ski fast. | [log in to unmask] --------------------------------+------------------------------------ Any sufficiently horrible technology is indistinguishable from Perl. =======================================================================