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>>> Can you go into the shops and buy these?
>
>>Yes.  Buy John Barnes book and you get it for free.
>
>That wasn't quite the answer I was looking for; I don't want to buy John
>Barnes's book as I have enough Ada language books at the moment (besides -
>having looked at other people's copies of Barnes, I have never been
>particularly
>impressed with it).

Getting software onto shelves is a somewhat more difficult task,
as you have to convince a retailer of its worth, and that is not
so easy as convincing a project manager or a curriculum committee !

Booksellers are accustomed to selling things they do not understand,
and they have been brainwashed into thinking "variety is good".  But
computer stores (around Massachusetts) seem overflowing in computer
games and light on "serious" software (like backup, one of my favorite
oddball requirements).  Try to find a compiler for Fortran or Cobol
on the shelves.

Larry Kilgallen