Hi! Almost immediately after I posted my "flame" and let you know about it, I left for California. Since then I have been away from home or involved in "family holiday affairs", almost continuously. Now, nearly a month later, I am back home, no longer in holiday mode, and "getting back to work". In the interim, I received quite a bit of feedback, most of it very interesting and useful. To avoid duplication, and to keep things as concise as possible, I will attempt to respond to all the feedback in 1 or 2 relatively short messages. But it may take a week or so to get that done. Thanks to each of you who took the time to reply with valuable perspective and additional information. Based on your participation I can significantly improve my statement, and I could almost write a "book" on the subject! :) sro S. Ron Oliver, semi-retired professor of Computer Science and Computer Engineering. www.csc.calpoly.edu/~sroliver Tired of sucky software! ? Check out www.caressCorp.com and follow the links to software sucks and The Oliver Academy.