Hi folks, I just read the article about (by?) Joyce Tokar in the latest DDC-I Online News. It is available at http://www.ddci.com/news/news_vol2num1.html Naturally most of us know most of what Joyce has to say there. However, the article is well-written in terms that many "lay people" would be able to understand. It would be nice if someone would take that material, refine it somewhat (i.e. revise it from being an "interview" to straight prose), augment it some, and try to get it into magazines like ESP, EDN, EE Times, etc., etc. Maybe even CACM? Ian Sommerville, and his colleagues, in particular, should read the DDC-I article. sro S. Ron Oliver, semi-retired professor of Computer Science and Computer Engineering. www.csc.calpoly.edu/~sroliver caress Corporation is proud to be the U.S. representative for Top Graph'X, developers of high quality software components, using Ada. For more information, check out www.topgraphx.com. Tired of sucky software! ? Check out www.caressCorp.com and follow the links to software sucks and The Oliver Academy.