My story would go in a similar vain but the second team did get the program built in one week and it did work 'OK' and it made management very happy. I was placed on the list for the next lay-offs and they were promoted. If you can spit working binary out your left ear then you are management's pet. Then, three months later they wanted to use it as the basis of a new product and nobody could read it much less figure out how it worked. Project scrapped. This is the much more common experience ;-( William Dale George Carlin once said, "The status quo always sucks." > -----Original Message----- > From: S. Ron Oliver [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 12:42 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: sucky software (was: The Good and Bad News about Java) > > At 09:11 PM 2/21/01 -0800, Deller, Steve wrote: > > >When I was a few years into programming, and just starting a job at CSC > > . . . > > > For the latter > >two catagories, starting with begin;null;end can sometimes lead to a > >reasonable dialog. > > This is a WONDERFUL story!!! > > My hat's off to you. > > You substantially restore my faith in the POSSIBILITY that there CAN be a > difference. > > May I use your story when appropriate (giving full credit to you, of > course). > > sro > > S. Ron Oliver, semi-retired professor of Computer Science and Computer > Engineering. www.csc.calpoly.edu/~sroliver > > caress Corporation is proud to be the U.S. representative for Top Graph'X, > developers of high quality software components, using Ada. For more > information, check out www.topgraphx.com. > > Tired of sucky software! ? Check out www.caressCorp.com and follow the > links to software sucks and The Oliver Academy.