From: Bob Leif To: Mike Feldman et al. Mike wrote on a subject with which I have professional knowledge. "Actually, I think most of that outrageous price is paying for the endless TV ads we are seeing for expensive prescription drugs." On this subject, we are in agreement. Unfortunately, I suspect that the companies have a First Amendment right to place these advertisements. However, FDA should require a more comprehensive summary of the product insert. About 20 minutes of time, would be sufficient for an adequate summary including a graphic summary of the side-effects. "BTW - I would support a similarly evenhanded balance in funding R&D in other industries too, especially in pharmaceuticals. In the drug industry, I opine that the scales are tipped too heavily toward the proprietary model - the taxpayers fund a lot of the R&D, the drug industry patents and commercializes the result and then claims their outrageous U.S. prices are necessary to fund their own R&D." The outrageous prices are NOT the result of R&D costs. They are the result of the huge costs involved in the premarket testing of the drugs to obtain FDA approval. FDA approval adds great value to a patent. As soon as a compound is made public domain, it becomes an orphan drug. In order for these compounds to be tested, the FDA quite properly provides monopoly status. I should note, if a medical device or software package that will require FDA approval is made public domain, there is a high probability that it will either not be commercialized or its commercialization will be greatly delayed. I totally agree that the system needs fixing. However, the fix is to increase competition by changing the legislation concerning FDA approval. This will require significant improvements in medical informatics. These improvements can best be made by using the combination of Ada with XML. -------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Team Ada: Ada Advocacy Issues (83 & 95) [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Michael Feldman Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 7:36 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: GPL vs. proprietary - winners and losers Hi everyone, For what it's worth, let me throw a few comments into this mix. Allchin's argument is, essentially, that the government should stop funding any work that would be released under GPL-type restrictions. Effectively, if it were to do so, the government would be preferring the proprietary model to the GPL-type open-source one. I'm not going to add to the heated debate of the merits of one model over the other. I think most of us would agree that _both_ models have their strengths and their weaknesses. This debate has been useful in clarifying that issue. I hope you would agree that it would be foolish for Uncle Sam to choose a winner between the two. Specifically on Ada 95 (after all, this _is_ Team-Ada!), Uncle Sam has invested roughly equally in both models. Thanks to AJPO, we have both GNAT and ObjectAda. As we know, GNAT is GPL-ed and OA is proprietary. Undoubtedly you all know that Uncle Sam funded the original NYU-based work on GNAT. Perhaps you're not all aware that the original ObjectAda front end was developed by Intermetrics in the guise of the AJPO-sponsored "Academic Ada" project; Thomson (later Aonix) became the commercializer thereof. If memory serves, the U.S. taxpayers' investment was in the neighborhood of a few million dollars in each system; this teeny bit of seed money has given rise to successful projects under both models. (Well, successful as Ada goes, anyway. :-)) In the interest of full disclosure: one of the competitors for the Academic Ada contract was a team that I was putting together, with work at GW and participation from the then-new ACT and a couple of other small companies. GNAT would have been the compiler in the middle of an integrated development environment. The whole would have been GPL-ed, of course. As angry as I was at losing the award, with benefit of hindsight, I can see that AJPO may have done the right thing by balancing its investment between the two models; their doing so gave Ada 95 a kick start that neither model, by itself, could have done. Bottom line: Uncle Sam shouldn't pick winners and losers. Let them fund GPL-ish software, public-domain software, and maybe even proprietary software with a reasonably evenhanded balance, on the merits of each proposal they get. BTW - I would support a similarly evenhanded balance in funding R&D in other industries too, especially in pharmaceuticals. In the drug industry, I opine that the scales are tipped too heavily toward the proprietary model - the taxpayers fund a lot of the R&D, the drug industry patents and commercializes the result and then claims their outrageous U.S. prices are necessary to fund their own R&D. Actually, I think most of that outrageous price is paying for the endless TV ads we are seeing for expensive prescription drugs. Mike Feldman