From: Bob Leif To: Alexander E. Kopilovitch et al. I believe that the founding fathers of the USA would have approved of both software patents and copyrights. In the historical context of the US constitution, please understand that Ben Franklin made a good part of his living from patents and publications. I suspect that this section of our Constitution may have been the first private member's bill. In any event, I believe that some of you share the same stereotype of scientists and intellectuals. Please understand, that this type of intellectual activity has its antecedents in medieval monks. These individuals took oaths of poverty, chastity, and obedience. I am against all 3. There is no rational reason why I should make money from my histochemical inventions and not make money on equivalent software innovation. Professors, by custom, keep the royalties on their textbooks. What makes this type of writing socially superior to the text necessary to instruct computers to perform processes and permit humans to understand these processes (software)? -----Original Message----- From: Team Ada: Ada Advocacy Issues (83 & 95) [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Alexandre E. Kopilovitch Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 10:11 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Microsoft lobbies gov't to control open source! >Tom Moran <[log in to unmask]> >> "Intellectual property" is a phrase you'll search for in vain in >> the 18th and 19th centuries and indeed most of the 20th. > But look at the US Constitution (18th centry) for the concept, if not >the phrase, Two members of this list provided me the [same] excerpt that they think is the one you had in mind: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Article I (which defines the legislative branch of our federal government), Section 8 (referring to powers of the legislature), Clause 8: "Clause 8: [The Congress shall have Power] To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;" --------------------------------------------------------------------------- In this clause the concept is quite different: the "exclusive Right for limited Times" is rather concrete concept, but the "intellectual property", on the contrary, is a broad and generic concept, it can be easily used as a source of various far-fetched deductions. So, replacing the "exclusive Right" by the "property" (no matter, intellectual or of another kind), is an unjustified extension.