I agree and disagree. The vast majority of security flaws I see are overflowing arrays. These would all go away in Ada or Java. However, certainly there are other flaws for which language is not a magic bullet. Martin C. Carlisle, PhD Associate Professor of Computer Science United States Air Force Academy -----Original Message----- From: Tony Lowe [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:15 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: 9/11 -> Ada Interesting theory, but nobody is really exploiting language flaws to break into security systems. If Ada has built in security measures that C++ doesn't (and Java does) then that is useful to sell, but security is much more than preventing overflow on an array. Tony