> * And which version of GtkAda? There's also a free version of Claw, and of course GWindows, at www.adapower.com and John English's JEWL has a good reputation for beginning Windows programming. Claw is probably not as simple for a beginner, but it has head room - if he gets seriously into Windows programming he can graduate to the expensive version (but get it at a student discount). Claw, even the free version, also comes with a GUI builder, which he might appreciate. Tom Moran (a Claw developer)