Hello, >Suggestions on how to get us out of this hole welcome. How about a regular review of all taxpayer funded Ada projects and opensourcing of the code (unless classified)? For example, I don't believe that there are no interesting Ada databases out there. FIRM to name just one acronym. Better education? Nah, this is a "wish" not a "suggestion". > The only way out might (I repeat might) be via > Executable/Translateable Models Subject education, what are those? :-) Regards, Wojtek