If you're going to segment out the most popular options to the top of the list, it's a really good idea to also include the same ones you've segmented in the rest of the list - so they appear twice. If someone misses them at the top by following the alphabetical list down, you'll want them to find it. And I also agree - defaults in a selection is generally not good when you want to make sure that someone has looked and verified, even if the option is obvious. Tim -----Original Message----- From: ACM SIGCHI WWW Human Factors (Open Discussion) [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Paola Kathuria Sent: Thursday, 31 May 2007 9:22 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: dropdown selections: default values or no? Anastasia wrote: > I have a client with a web app full of long forms. Many of the > selection boxes have been set to no default as the client wants the > user to 'consciously' select a value. However it is also clear that in > most of these cases there is an obvious default value that gets > selected 80% of the time (80/20 rule). > > Any opinions/thoughts on this? I always opt in favor of efficiency, > but in this case the client wants to go the other direction.... I think your client's right. Otherwise, you can never be sure that the user has seen the selection box and that no-action = an implicit selection. However, put the popular choices at the top of the list and separate it from the rest with a line to save scrolling. E.g., if it were a country list: <option value="">== Select country ==</option> <option value="GB">United Kingdom</option> <option value="US">United States</option> <option value="">-----------------------------</option> <option value="AL">Albania</option> <option value="AD">Andorra</option> <option value="AI">Anguilla</option> <option value="AR">Argentina</option> <option value="AM">Armenia</option> etc. Paola -- http://www.paolability.com/ -------------------------------------------------------------- Tip of the Day: Email mailto:[log in to unmask] with any comments, questions or problems CHI-WEB: www.sigchi.org/web POSTINGS: mailto:[log in to unmask] MODERATORS: mailto:[log in to unmask] SUBSCRIPTION CHANGES & FAQ: www.sigchi.org/web/faq.html -------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------- Tip of the Day: Email mailto:[log in to unmask] with any comments, questions or problems CHI-WEB: www.sigchi.org/web POSTINGS: mailto:[log in to unmask] MODERATORS: mailto:[log in to unmask] SUBSCRIPTION CHANGES & FAQ: www.sigchi.org/web/faq.html --------------------------------------------------------------