Also FWIW, Harvey Mudd College considers itself a liberal arts college as well as an engineering school: https://www.hmc.edu/about-hmc/ Janet Joel Adams wrote: > > Also in the FWIW category: Calvin offers a 4-year BSE (Bachelor of > Science in Engineering): > > http://www.calvin.edu/academic/engineering/ > > It’s a general engineering degree with concentrations in Chemical, > Civil/Environmental, Electrical/Computer, and Mechanical Engineering. > Students in the program take the same set of courses their first two > years and then take specialty courses for their concentrations their > final two years. > > Cheers, > > -Joel Adams. > > > On Mar 17, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Scot Drysdale <[log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > >> >> For what it is worth, Dartmouth offers a Bachelor of Arts major in >> Engineering. To get a B.E. normally takes an additional year. >> >> Scot Drysdale >> >>> >>> On Mar 17, 2016, at 9:04 AM, Douglas Baldwin <[log in to unmask] >>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: >>> >>> There was some really good discussion about what "liberal arts" >>> means that now seems to have died down, so I'll try to summarize: >>> >>> One key idea was that a liberal arts education has broad goals, >>> i.e., it's for a career but also for membership in community, civic >>> life, etc. Another take on breadth, from the perspective of >>> curricula or student experiences, is that a liberal arts program >>> provides room for second majors, minors, and interdisciplinary >>> interests. Within computing programs, breadth is reflected in early >>> exposure to the variety of computing topics and cross-disciplinary >>> connections. What makes something a "liberal arts" program is that >>> it's goals reflect such desires for breadth; "liberal arts" is *not* >>> defined by size of institution or where a program is housed within >>> an institution. All in all, this definition is very close to the one >>> offered in the committee goals and focus statement. >>> >>> So it looks to me like we're pretty comfortable with the idea that >>> the sorts of computing programs we'll focus on are ones that have a >>> central goal of broad education. On lifelong timescales, this means >>> preparing students for their community/civic roles and personal >>> well-being as well as for careers; on course-of-study timescales, >>> this means breadth of computing and its applications, and >>> opportunities for study outside of computing per se. Is this indeed >>> a notion of "liberal arts" that we're willing to use going forward? >>> >>> (PS. I also thought it was neat how many of the foregoing liberal >>> arts values appeared in Villanova's College of Engineering mission >>> statement Boots quoted. I sometimes have this heretical idea that >>> there really could be such a thing as a liberal arts engineering >>> program if someone wanted it.) >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the SIGCSE-LIBARTS-COMM list, click the >>> following link: >>> http://listserv.acm.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ACMLPX.CGI?SUBED1=SIGCSE-LIBARTS-COMM&A=1 >>> >>> <http://listserv.acm.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ACMLPX.CGI?SUBED1=SIGCSE-LIBARTS-COMM&A=1> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the SIGCSE-LIBARTS-COMM list, click the following >> link: >> http://listserv.acm.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ACMLPX.CGI?SUBED1=SIGCSE-LIBARTS-COMM&A=1 >> >> <http://listserv.acm.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ACMLPX.CGI?SUBED1=SIGCSE-LIBARTS-COMM&A=1> >> >> >> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Joel C. Adams, PhD > Chair, Dept of Computer Science > Calvin College > http://www.calvin.edu/~adams > [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the SIGCSE-LIBARTS-COMM list, click the following > link: > http://listserv.acm.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ACMLPX.CGI?SUBED1=SIGCSE-LIBARTS-COMM&A=1 > > <http://listserv.acm.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ACMLPX.CGI?SUBED1=SIGCSE-LIBARTS-COMM&A=1> > > ############################ To unsubscribe from the SIGCSE-LIBARTS-COMM list: write to: mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the following link: http://listserv.acm.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ACMLPX.CGI?SUBED1=SIGCSE-LIBARTS-COMM&A=1