I wasn't really trying to start a fight about what the difference was between journeyman, advanced and master. I am going to do a tutorial that expects that people already know Ada95. Once you go beyond tagged types and tasking. . . Realize that one of the key features of Ada is it's OOness, but there are still a lot of new features in Ada95. There are also some of the old features that have been enhanced. That's what I'm trying to discuss. Maybe a good name for the tutorial is "Beyond Tagged Types" I'm looking at it as a good forum for the "new ada crowd," those who started with Ada95. They can learn the "old" ada features that are a good thing. It is also a good refresher for the "Ada83 crowd" because they can take another look at the old features of Ada in the OO light as presented with Ada95. Chad