At the end of a two month class (two nights per week, and two Saturdays) in Ada, one of my more argumentive students approached me with his view of Ada. He said, "I think I am beginning to see the point. With C I can get a clean compile on my program immediately, but it takes me a long time to get it to run. With Ada it takes a long time to get a clean compile, but once it compiles there is less work required to make it run." This seems to be true of the C family of languages, including C++. Those members of your team who are fustrated with the effort in getting a clean compilation are stuck with the same short-sighted view that is the bane of American industry. I sometimes wonder if these same people think 30 minute sitcoms represent a true fragment of how real-life works. Richard Riehle [log in to unmask] AdaWorks Software Engineering Suite 30 2555 Park Boulevard Palo Alto, CA 94306 (415) 328-1815 FAX 328-1112