W. Wesley Groleau (Wes) wrote: > > Philip Johnson wrote: > > > > W. Wesley Groleau (Wes) wrote: > > > > I suggest (and intend to tell the VIPs directly) that any > > student in > > a service academy should be at least as familiar with Ada as > > with > > any other language. If necessary, use a little of the > > proposed > > $1.5 million "investment in infrastructure" to ensure this. > > > > Wes, Several years ago I attended a meeting at GWU where the various accrediting agencies (ABET, AACSB, CSAB, ...) made presentations to educational liaisons from foreign embassies. One of the people there was a computer science faculty member from one of the service academies. While talking with this individual I asked them why they were not teaching with Ada. The reply was that Ada was too hard for their students. It was better to teach them programming with a system with a good debugger because they did not have time for concept development, because their students were too busy with other courses! That’s why they teach them C/C++, there more interested in teaching students how to use a debugger than in teaching good software development concepts (at least for that one service). And we wonder why military software development is in a shambles - let’s all learn to program with debuggers and not analyze and plan. I find this personally interesting because in my 25+ years of software development, I happen to need a debugger twice. Once to prove to IBM that there were incompatibilities between various Fortran compilers on the same machine (No surprise there). An once to find a problem when I tried to take a shortcut constructing a system in Ada (I found out why you should never use the use clause, or at least be judicious in its use).