At this point, that would be me (hand held high). If I'm writing an Ada program (which I don't do much of anymore) I'm probably solving some text-processing problem that exceeds my limited knowledge of awk or tcl. Now, it used-to-was that I was spending trench time debugging real-time embedded control systems; or training programmers to do (mostly) the same. I just like Ada as what it is to me, a general purpose modular programming language. >Frankly, I expect most everyone on Team-Ada (328 people) to prefer >embedded systems. This is a small group of highly enthusiastic >Ada-philes and Ada is mostly used in embedded systems. > >Raise your hands if you're using Ada to create desk-top applications or >any other non-embedded software - and that's the main part of your job. Keith Shillington - [log in to unmask] Manager, Quality Assurance and Ada Customer Support