Robert Cheetham wrote: > I prefer embedded systems every time, whatever the language is !! Why, > because I get a kick out of making something in the "real world" > actually happen. Frankly, I expect most everyone on Team-Ada (328 people) to prefer embedded systems. This is a small group of highly enthusiastic Ada-philes and Ada is mostly used in embedded systems. Raise your hands if you're using Ada to create desk-top applications or any other non-embedded software - and that's the main part of your job. I bet there aren't that many. That's my dilemma. I want to do desktop applications in Ada, and I just don't think those jobs are easily found. Therefore, employees train in C or C++ so they can get the types of jobs the want. So, my answer to "Are Ada Programmers really that hard to find?" is no, not if you're looking for embedded system programmers, but yes if you're looking for desktop programmers. Gary -------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary Kephart, Software Engineer | Investment Technology Group, Inc Phone: (213)270-7544 | 400 Corporate Pointe, Suite 855 Fax: (310)216-0933 | Culver City, CA 90230 mailto:[log in to unmask] | http://www.itginc.com Team Ada member | "The Future of Trading" Disclaimer: these are my opinions, not ITG's.