I tend to concur ... I've stayed away from both frames and Java
for both the PAL and the SDE for those reasons and others.
There are still many issues, however, on how to effectively and
efficiently provide useful information.  What is "obvious" to one
is not necessarily "obvious" to another, especially when it comes
to keywords and topic headings.  It's an evolutionary effort.

Rick

LJKpublish wrote:
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> [log in to unmask] quoted and then wrote:
>
> >> Neither the software nor the indexes appears at that URL.
> >
> >It is there.  You may have an old bowser.  That URL leads to a page that
> >uses frames and Javascript.Try
>
> Although I have not tried the material, sometimes people have a
> "browser selection" section on their main entry page.  The Intermetrics
> site as of last year even offered selection by link speed.
>
> When making a browser selection, do not presume that frames-capable
> means Java-capable or Javascript-capable.  Security conscious folk
> turn off Javascript and Java due to the security holes which have
> been reported.  The goal should be information transfer, not beating
> the drum for particular browser technology (unless you are running
> the web site for Sun).
>
> Larry Kilgallen

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