Mike > ... add it up carefully ... dont just grep on the word with ... Daniel > Of course, the counting also needs to consider that a context > clause of the form "WITH Foo, Bar;" should count as *two* not one Thank you. I am very glad I gave my methods and tools as well as the counts. There is not deniability (or validity) to measurements whose methods cannot be critically examined. The counts are STILL VALID because on this particular project we first went through a pass and got rid of all commas in WITH and USE list to make this count do-able with only a line scanner and not a full lexical scanner. In general, a lexcial scanner, such as the one I published on comp.lang.ada last month for removing comments from Ada programs, should be used to do counts like this. Although I have reacted previously against syntactic standards for capitalization and indentation, it appears that WITH lists are more readable without any commas. However, since the lexical scanner was published, there can be no strong argument for this. Mike Brenner