The Rose 98 people you spoke to must be idiots (Sorry, if any of you are on this list, but that seems pretty unlikely given the total ignorance displayed in their response). Right now we are building a Rose 98 Ada 95 and Ada 83 code generator that will be tightly integrated with Rational Apex Ada NT for both code generation and reverse engineering. But you can also use it independent of Apex if you don't want to do reverse engineering. The code generation and reverse engineering portions have been working since early this summer (I have been demoing them for months), and the work remaining is in the integration with Apex NT. The official beta will be available in about 2 weeks, but if you need it now, I can get something together for you that you could use tomorrow. You will be able to get Ada 95 as an add-in, or as an Ada-only Professional Edition. Please send me the name of the person with whom you spoke (and please don't cc the list). There is NO EXCUSE for disseminating that nonsense. Gene Ouye <[log in to unmask]> Apex Ada NT Product Manager phone: 408-863-5054 Rational Software Corporation cell: 650-465-2541 18880 Homestead Road fax: 408-863-5075 Cupertino, CA 95014 email: [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: Team Ada: Ada Advocacy Issues (83 & 95) [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of pjohnson Sent: Thursday, October 01, 1998 3:04 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Rational's apparent disinterest in Ada 95 on Wintel To the Team, I am working on a project the requires the use of Rational's Rose modeling tool and Apex compiler. We are using Rose 98 on Win95/NT to generate the models. Once the models are complete we have to move them to Rose Ada on a Sparc for code generation, reverse engineering, and builds. This is done because Rose 98 does not support Ada95. While at Rational for an Apex course I spoke to the Rose 98 sales/marketing support people about an Ada95 addin for Rose 98. I thought this was a reasonable request as Rational sells a Win95/NT Ada95 compiler. The response was unexpected. I was told that they saw no future in Ada and no one used Ada on PCs, just Java, Visual C++, and Visual Basic. They also stated that they knew they had lost the Ada market and saw no reason to support Ada on their PC product. I pointed out the Aonix has sold 75,000-85,000 licenses of ObjectAda and that translates into a fairly nice market potential for modeling tools. Does any one else think that an Ada95 addin for Rational Rose would be a good idea. I know Aonix has StP, but as a consumer I like the idea of choices. Also, does this attitude worry anyone else? Philip Johnson [log in to unmask]