> > have not seen any data proving that the CMU Capability Maturity Model levels
> > have anything to do with quality or cost.  Admittedly the level of an
> > organization appears to be correlated with their capacity to estimate cost
> > and delivery time.  However, usability and maintainability are also very
> > important.
>
> Without a process, there is no way to influence the quality level. With a
> well defined and well embedded process you will not make the same mistake
> twice. Therefor the CMM process influences both cost and quality.

You believe that and I believe that.  Nevertheless, what Bob Lief said is
that he has not seen any data _proving_ that.  Nor have I.