Roger , Don't let people blame the language for two totally different development processes. Ada can be used the same why he 'C' project did -- and does so very neatly with less problems as well. This is not an 'Ada' issues at all. It is a "process" issue. If both processes had used the same language the result would have been the same. Bill Dale LMMS mailto:[log in to unmask] mailto:[log in to unmask] > ---------- > From: Roger Racine > Reply To: Roger Racine > Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 1999 08:29 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Anti-Ada Arguments > > I have an interesting anti-Ada argument that I am having difficulty > refuting. Any help? > > The argument goes like this: > > ----------------------- > Project A uses Ada. Project C uses C (use C++ or Java if you like). > > Project A uses good Ada development process and spends a lot of effort up > front to make sure maintenance will be easy. Project C starts coding > immediately, and documents the design "later" (i.e. not at all). > > By the time Project A is ready for a detailed design review, they have > thousands of pages of design documentation, they have done walkthroughs on > everything, and they have spent a good deal of money. By this time, > Project C has had a number of demonstrations, has a good deal of problem > reports (due to the usual C pitfalls), and has made a few major design > changes based on the early demonstrations to the customer. > > At Project A's design review, the customer sees a major problem in the > basic design. There were interpretation problems with the requirements. > The customer says they need the problem fixed. The developer says: "That > will cost $10M. We have to update thousands of pages of documentation, go > through all those walkthroughs again, etc." > > At Project C's design review, it is less likely that this will happen > because the customer has been seeing the system being built. But even if > a > major design change is needed, Project C's cost will be much lower to make > the change. > ----------------------- > > I don't think it is sufficient to simply say "The money will be made up > during maintenance." While probably true, the initial cost overrun might > cause the program to be canceled. And the total cost, while possibly > higher for the C case, is likely to be more deterministic (you know how > many bugs are likely, but it is much more difficult to tell how many major > design problems will occur). > > > > Roger Racine > Draper Laboratory, MS 31 > 555 Technology Sq. > Cambridge, MA 02139 > 617-258-2489 >