> > And Visual Basic is a LOT easier ... my students all ran > >their first GUI-oriented programs with various degrees of bells and > >whistles after 1.5 hours of instruction and 1.5 hours of lab. > Do your Ada students use GUI Builders or thick bindings, and > it still takes them more than 3 hours till first GUI program? > p.s. In original BASIC "PRINT 2+2" was *really* quick to learn. Maybe it's like every GUI builder I ever had to use: You can get a very attractive interface almost immediately--but it takes a lot of editing of the unreadable autogenerated code to get anything useful. (And if you're a perfectionist about having things line up horizontally or vertically, you have to hand-edit the pixel coordinates in the GUI intermediate files.)