No it goes more like this in the commercial (non-gov't) world thanks to the MS marketing machine: I have 13,000 employees. 6,000 Win9x or NT workstations, what good is Ada for me it doesn't work well with Windows. or Upper management has decided to switch to NT, do it. Yes, I know they don't understand what they are doing, but that's life. or Ada's not powerful enough to create GUIs on NT or We are switching today from Ada to C++ since it better supports Windows I can keep going on. The commmercial world doesn't run on logic, they run on marketing. I am not concerned about browser wars that have already been lost, but to popularity of Ada and I can think of no way better then to ride a wave of marketing money bigger then some countries gross national product. The fact is that if you run Windows you will be running IE and if you don't understand why yet, you will the next time you try to install anything new from Microsoft. I am talking about embedding IE's HTML rendering engine in to an Ada application and hiding the fact that IE is there at all. Something that a large number of Win32 programs already do and Ada Win32 programs will need to do now and in the future. Just like MS added APIs for HTML Dialogs, expect that more and more APIs will start relying on the internal COM objects of IE. If you want to say you support NT and 9X today, you support IE. You would be proud to see a shrink wrapped Win32 application created in Ada on the shelves of CompUSA. I know you would. David Botton --- "W. Wesley Groleau x4923" > Using your enemies is one thing, helping them stamp > out their competition > is another. > > "Hey, look at this killer app written in Ada! (Oh, > by the way, you have > to use Microsoft's browser with it.)" > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com